[Guide] Supporting Helper Appliations

I will definitely use this guide to help in my decision making.

 

I prefer not to meddle with these applications, there is way too much drama involved.

To be frank, I'd prefer it if the applications had been private like the last time they were open; to avoid all this commotion.
My reasons for this include, applications being taken too seriously, creation excess threads like this one and people judging others when they really are not in a position to.

All that's been going around the network lately, helper applications. They are being taken too seriously by many users; yes, the role should be taken earnestly but it has sparked arguments. Players become defensive and hostile over comments made on these threads and I feel like it could have been avioded if the applications had been offered somewhere else, a little more private.

Then comes my next problem, this 'support' 'no support' thing is ridiculous. This is a system brought from Mineverse that I personally don't agree with. It seems all a little spammy, if you want to argue that you're leaving feedback when you write 'no support' why not actually let them know how you think they could improve. And if you appreciate what they've written, why not just leave a relevant rating or vote if a poll is provided?
I see this as a potential form of bullying when I see plenty of satisfying applications that have 'no support' posted below them, based purely on the applicant's personality.

This thread seems to be directed toward the general community, which do not have any sway in who is selected. Our new owners know exactly what they are doing, they have plenty of experience in this area. Although, it seems you are targeting users that post 'no support' which is fine, but since this system of 'rating' has merged from Mineverse, there doesn't seem to be a chance of it dying off in the future; unfortunate because I personally dislike it.

No one here has any right to judge another and publicly expose them. I was disgusted with some of the outbursts against some of the members here. Like I said, this could have been avoided if these applications had been made private. I personally do not like Mineverse's way of operating which is why I chose to play Minetime. I would hate to see Minetime turn into Mineverse.

Finally, these helper applications are not a popularity contest, it seems some people believe they are. If a user was to have so many likes on a thread it will not reflect, in any way how the recruiter will decide the outcome for the application. Some people focus straight on the statistics that the general community have decided on which like I said, does not represent the final decision.

Thanks.

 

It's not really drama, just people attacking each other over comments on their application. People seem to think that comments will effect your chances of getting accepted, when in fact I think your response to those comments will effect your changes more.

Although that is true, it also helps pick out who are worthy candidates from the ones putting on a show to get Helper.

I completely agree, I'd just like to add that I see it as a way to farm post counts. Not many people have actually written a really good comment with actual feedback to help an applicant.

It's not really a potential form of bullying, it's a potential form of attemptive sabotage. People do it when they don't like someone can't deal with them having a chance of becoming an official staff member. I think the staff should completely ignore "support" and "no support" type of comments unless they spark an argument, which I think the staff should use to view how the user would react to future arguments and such situations.

Exposing users is actually a good thing, if someone is threatening to DDoS/DoS, lying, bullying, harassing, 'talking trash' behind people's back, etc. I think they should be exposed for what they've been saying and/or done. Exposing users is one of the few ways the community can actually help decide who becomes a Helper.

I've been abused and targeted by one of the helpers from the previous batch, he even tried to DDoS my VPN and I wish I gathered proof to expose him. He let his friends attack me, maliciously, and threatened to ban me if I ever did anything to them. He also bullied me into letting these things go on, they couldn't really hurt me or my VPN, and so I let them continue to do it. I didn't care to collect proof because it was me verse a Helper.

You're just pretty much restating the same thing over and over again, in different words, imo.

 

Hey, thanks for the response!

I'll include a few definitions here
Drama -
Characteristic of or appropriate to the drama, especially in involving conflict or contrast; vivid; moving:

Conflict -
To come into collision or disagreement; be contradictory, at variance, or in opposition

I don't really see the need the applications were made so public. I'm going to assume that you are from Mineverse, which I understand this is how NoobCrew performs helper applications over there.
I would have completely fine with these applications if they had been submitted behind the scenes. I assume you were not around the last time they were open; the applications were opened in a different link and could only be accessed by yourself and the administrators, which in my opinion was just better.

I could not agree more!

I suppose that would've been a better word to use. Although, I was more of straying away from the applications here and targeting those people that used to spam our negative ratings (bad grammar and spelling) to put people down; they were removed. I believe that this would be abused similarly to the ratings. The worst part, no one can/will do anything to stop it.

Hmm interesting! I wrote that paragraph mostly about a thread which was made purely to humiliate a user in front of everyone simply because they didn't like them, it was a little far. To expose someone for wrongdoing is fantastic but to make a thread explaining that someone was 'an absolute jerk to everyone' crossed the line.

Of course, a formal report to the staff is completely okay but to ridicule and publicly put another player down is disappointing. I'll leave a small quote from the thread I'm talking about here, 'I don't care what you guys think about me, but we can't let this crap take represent our server. [They're] an absolute idiot. I'd rather have neither than both of us be helper.'
I hope you understand what I mean here.

I appreciate your positive attitude, thank you!

 

You must be living under a rock. I am one the few originals of this server still playing.

Those applications resulted in a lot of bad helpers, most of them were demoted. I think they should try the current method and use whichever gets better results in the future.

Yeah, I don't really think support and no support will become ratings because this community loves to abuse things like that.

If this is the case, it should've just been reported and removed by the staff.

I'd imagine the people overlooking the applications will be able to make their own choices without the influence of comments. Like I've previously said, the comments should not hurt the application, only the person applying's response to those comments.

 

I agree with this post @TeamTyler

 

I think that every application should have been locked, it's unfair to have comments on it, just an agree and a disagree should suffice

 

I think this is a great guide!

 

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This should be pinned.

 

Great guide, helps me out.

 

I agree with you. Only staff members should be able to comment on the helper applications, just like reports.

 

I just said I just agreed with him...
and I also added on, in a way*