zipster522's idea so that oppvp is fair.

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by zipster522, Oct 21, 2014.

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Let me know what you guys think?

  1. Remove fly hacks, crit hacks and /repair hacks

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  2. DO nothing and let it slide.

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  1. zipster522

    zipster522 New Member

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    Ok so hacks are allowed lets get the straight that I allready know this, yet players feel the need to tell me they are allowed 100 times a day. Now moving on I think that hackers make OpPVP very fun. I myself do not hack whatsoever yet rumors are spread everyday about how I am a hacker. I will make this very clear again,
    "I DO NOT HACK "!!! I feel that there are hackers on OpPVP that take hacking too far and completely ruin the server. I do not enjoy fighting against hackers with god hacks such as /repair and auto gap as well as crit hacks ohhh... and that fly.... How are those fair hacks?
    Once again I have no quarrel with anyone about hacks like kill aura and reach hacks. Hacks that can be avoided if you are smart and good enough in pvp. I can kill a player with hacks and enjoy fighting hackers who use minimal hacks such as kill aura, antiKB, auto sword etc. etc.
    But the truth is what I see most players rage quit and leave the server from is the hackers who use god hacks to avoid death at all costs. The ones who literally go around flying out of combat to eat a gap when there about to die or crit hack ko you in just a mere 4 hits ruining the entire point of Gapples and fair OpPVP. You can't eat a gap when you get koed in 4 hits I have many times and my reaction times are before they are even hitting me. Some of the hackers on OpPVP will even do /repair all during combat. You can't even break there armor. Now when you have a hacker with auto equip, it's fair because maybe there armor isn't coming off but you can still break it and win.
    I think sharp X axes is enough with kill aura hackers roaming then when you put that weapon in a crit hackers hands with srength 2 or crit hacks... Well that is a like a 3 hit ko. I have also notice that some hackers have found a way to make gapples useless. They can straight rek you through a gapples regen. I mean literally your health will go down while gapped. A bit unfair I think as well.
    Some of the god hackers are really not that nice as well only targeting one or 2 players because simply because they can with there TOO op hacks. I have seen many players rage quit from this In fact I have a list of at least 18 players who don't play on OpPVP because of the god hackers.

    It is simply just a thought that some hacks are allowed and ones that would deteriorate the idea of Fair OpPvp should not be able to be used. Such as things like /repair, fly and crit hacks. Those 3 hacks really ruin the idea behind the MMCO stats as well rendering those things useless to some players.

    I think hackers on a server are great :D
    But I also think there should be some form of decency and morality level of whats tolerable and whats not.
    This is just and idea I will leave poll so players can vote and choose wether they want to keep /repair, fly and crit hacks or get rid of them. It is not up to me but maybe players can show what they like and don't like.

    My kdr was 13 yesterday but I got koed many times by crit hackers as well as fly hackers and /repair hackers who just wouldn't let up. But I have never seen a player kill one of those hackers who use those hacks. players please vote so I can at least see what your thoughts are. :p

    Also just and fyi my stats Without hacks are now.
    Kills:528
    Deaths:48
    KDR: 13 -2 =11 <---- because of god hackers
     
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  2. StealthRise7

    StealthRise7 New Member

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    Don't know how you stop crit hacks. Plus it would be weird to allow hacks on all other servers such as Prison but then restrict it in OP PvP
     
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  3. zipster522

    zipster522 New Member

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    Prison and OpPVP are very different man you can't even categorize in them same sentence. On prison there should be no problem with those hackers as there are designated areas for mining pvp such and such. In OpPVP it's simply one big battlefield. So your argument is kinda invalid.
    Also there is a reason I put my suggestion in OpPVP and not in prison. So..... yeah...
     
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  4. 2002goblue

    2002goblue Forum Enthusiast

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    I haven't ever seen a /repair hack before. I didn't think that was possible.
     
  5. Shadow Walker

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    Hacks are allowed as many people hack.This are the reason why people hack
    1.Hacks are easy to get.
    2.It is hard to detect who is hacking.
    3.Minetime Cloud do not have enough moderators and helpers to watch and ban them.
    4.Minetime Cloud is not like every boring server,they just ban you for hacks.
    If hacks are allowed on Prison but not Op Pvp,it not going to be fair.
    And if u think its not fair,just quit.But if u feel they are too OverPowered,u should just try and get more powerful stuff from noob pools.If u don't know where is the noob pools, here are the warps to them
    /warp noobpool
    /warp pool2
     
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  6. StealthRise7

    StealthRise7 New Member

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    You didn't read what I said carefully...I said it would be weird to only ban hacks on one game but allow hacks on all the other games.
     
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  7. Jess

    Jess Dedicated Minetimer

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    Well, everything you've said here is either not actually a "hack" or not possible to fix.

    /repair is not a hack, there is a command for donors called /fix all.

    No such thing as auto Gapple.

    Fly is "blocked" by nocheat, but it is impossible to completely patch it because nocheat allows "flying" as a result of knockback. Otherwise people could hold you in-place using a knockback 2 sword with all the rubber banding effects that would happen.

    "Crit" hacks are actually just jumping every time they swing, which is perfectly possible to do without hacks so there's really no way to change that.
     
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  8. zipster522

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    I don't think you guys are really getting the picture. You also have allready made my point I don't hack because I don't even know what they are called. Jess just and fyi kids aren't jumping on OpPVP to score crits. They literally just walk up to you swing and crit they don't have to jump. It is shown clearly they don't have to jump because they crit hit 80% to near 100% of the time in water. If fix all is a command should it be allowed to be spammed while in combat to avoid death? As well as flying back onto the map when you have been knocked off? I am sure no one really directly targets you jess. I mean of course you have lots of friends. Im also sure there smart enough not to walk up to an admin and not crit hack where there is very clearly no jumping involved.
     
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  9. zipster522

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    The only persons advise I do not find helpful are yours. I have said that I enjoy this server so why are you telling me to "quit".
    Thank you jess and musicJam for your thoughts. I do understand now that there aren't enough staff to apprehend something like this. I will simply just have to get better at pvp without hacks. All will be well.
     
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  10. zipster522

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    lol It's funny that people think I hack and I don't even know what hax are lmfao. Jess you funny. :D
    That made me laugh lol
     
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  11. StealthRise7

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    No-one really cares whether you hack or not. If you don't, good for you. You get a disadvantage but if you are a pro then you should be able to take on admin hackers. Also we do get your point but you have to understand that this is a server which allows hacks, which include crits and flying (to some extent).
     
  12. Jess

    Jess Dedicated Minetimer

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    If you mean the part where it says "CRITICALLY HIT" in red, then that's actually part of mcMMO and has nothing to do with hacks, but is rather directly related to your axes level. Actual "crit hacks" are just jumping to get the slight damage boost for hitting things whilst in the air, which is in the base game. Fix all doesn't repair worn armor in combat, so you actually have to stop and take your armor off and put a new set back on for it to work, which some players are fast enough to do.

    As for players flying back onto the map, that is not really possible to change. The way no-cheat is written, when a player gets tagged for "flying" it changes their coordinates to the last place where they were on the ground. Otherwise they could use it to stay floating in the air or stuff like that.
     
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  13. STradomzzz

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    zipster take this into account fly hacks are not aloud but if someone hits you while the fly hacks are on you fly. There is no point removing this because people will still be op. Also I'm not sure how you can get rid of fly hacks and armour hacks and crit hacks. And finally you cant blame everyone for using hacks because your aloud them. If you call mcmmo crit hacks your wrong m. The higher your mcmmo level is the more damage you can inflict on your opponent. And if fixall had a combat log system you would die probably all the time. If you don't like servers that have hackers then minetime is not the server for you! Take it from me STradomzzz I'm admin and yes I do hack as well. I used to be enhanced but I got admin. I also didn't hack. If i was you zipster I would get a client.
     
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  14. zipster522

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    For the last time guys I said this was a suggestion and your getting defensive and telling me Im blaming.... Please people this was more for info about hacks and what is going on and to see what players think. So far I have only seen moderators comment and from some of the comments. I am not very surprised that the hacking can go this far. Like I said before you told me I was blaming you which I am not at all, was simply suggesting that it may be a good idea to look into. I understand that you think Mcmmo is what is causing the crit damage. It is not jess I know because I have near 400 axe skill. But some players are using swords and reking armor in literally only 15 hits I went down with /kit standard and one person I fought was not jumping he was hitting me but my armor was breaking within seconds. Its not an mcmmo axe thing. Idk what it is but I see many players doing it. But they can only fly if I hit them?
     
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    No and I get that dude I'm just asking to what extent? That was the only question this forum post was meant to look at.
     
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    Yes, strength 2 potions make players do 260% of their original damage, so combining that with mcMMO skills and a high speed kill aura will break armor pretty fast.

    Yes, they can only fly away immediately after being hit.
     
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  17. Drowninpizza

    Drowninpizza Forum Enthusiast

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    It's called OP PvP, I think it's kind of ok if people have OP advantages....
     
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  18. zipster522

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    Ok hopefully some players from the server who are low hackers will check this post out only mods so far.
     
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    Tbh you should just start learning how to install hacks. We don't care that you are butthurt for some people hacking which is allowed as CollinPotato said. Just stop being a baby and deal with it.

    EDIT: Plus you suck at Op you should just quit. Js.
     
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  20. MrLawnmower45

    MrLawnmower45 Dedicated Minetimer

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    AHHAHA nice one zippy good to see that your still trying :) ! #no
     
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